Badenoch will ‘get better through time’ at the media and at PMQs, Stride says, insisting she is best leader for Tories
Q: Do you think the Conservative party should change its leadership election rules to stop the members choosing another Liz Truss?
Stride says he does not want to comment on that process.
But he says Kemi Badenoch is the best person to deliver the thoughtful style of leadership and politics that he has been calling for. (See 11.23am.)
He says:
If you look at the nature of the challenge and the approach to it that I have set out, which is deep thought through through time and thoughfulness, she is the person to lead us.
She will get better through time at the media. She will get better through time at dispatch box though PMQs, just as Margaret Thatcher, when she became leader in ‘75 , was often criticised for everything from her hair to the clothes she wore to the pitch of her voice to heaven knows what else, in the end, she got it together, and Kemi will do absolutely that.
What she is doing behind the scenes is leading a shadow cabinet that is united, and our party has not been united in that way for a very long time.
And she is going to drive through the process with me and others, so that we come to the right conclusions.
Stride was referring to the many criticisms of Badenoch’s performance (which explain why Henry Hill, deputy editor of the ConservativeHome website, said in a recent Guardian article that Tories assume she will face a leadership challenge.)
Stride probably intended these remarks to be helpful. But Badenoch may not view them quite like that.
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Starmer describes free school meals plan as ‘downpayment’ on child poverty, implying two-child cap to be changed
Keir Starmer has described the govenment’s decision to extend free school meals for pupils in England as a “statement of intent”, implying it will be followed by changes to the two-child benefit cap.
Speaking to broadcasters on a visit to a school in Essex where he was promoting the free school meals policy, he said:
This is a statement of intent. It’s something that we’ve been wanting to do for a long time. It’s the first time it’s ever been done …
I would see it as part of a wider package, because we’ve already done work on child care, on breakfast clubs, on school uniforms. So it’s about [giving children] the best possible start, but it’s also essentially a cost of living issue for their parents.
In a further answer, he described the policy three times as a “downpayment”. Asked if his use of the word “intent” meant he intended to life the two-child benefit cap, he replied:
I would say this is a downpayment on child poverty. We’ve got a taskforce that will come out with a strategy. I want to get to the root causes of child poverty. One of the greatest things the last Labour government did was to drive down child poverty. I’m determined we will do that.
Today is a downpayment on that, but it goes with breakfast clubs already being rolled out … But yes, it’s a downpayment on what I want to do in relation to child poverty.
Nato secretary general Mark Rutte to meet Starmer in London next week, No 10 says
Keir Starmer will host Nato secretary-general Mark Rutte in London next week, Downing Street has said.
Speaking at the morning lobby briefing, the PM’s spokesperson said:
The two leaders have spoken a number of times and this will be the second time that Mr Rutte has visited the prime minister at Downing Street.
You can expect the prime minister to raise how we can ensure all allies meet their stated pledges in support of our collective defence, to keep people safe.
It is worth recognising the UK’s track record on spending and indeed our contribution to Nato, both in terms of our spending and our capabilities.
Rutte is pushing for Nato members to commit to spending 3.5% on the military, with a further 1.5% on defence-related measures.
Stride says says ONS’s problems with data collection ‘thoroughly reprehensible’
Q: Today the ONS today has apologised for getting inflation figures wrong. How can any chancellor govern without good data.
Stride said it was “thoroughly reprehensible” that the ONS cannot deliver accurate information in, for example, its labour market data. He said the ONS has admitted that its polling approach to getting information does not deliver good detail, beccause fewer people respond, and so sample sizes are lower. He said that was unacceptable, and that he was surprised this had been allowed to continue for as long as it has.
He said if he were still chair of the Treasury select committee, he would require the ONS to explain this.
Badenoch will ‘get better through time’ at the media and at PMQs, Stride says, insisting she is best leader for Tories
Q: Do you think the Conservative party should change its leadership election rules to stop the members choosing another Liz Truss?
Stride says he does not want to comment on that process.
But he says Kemi Badenoch is the best person to deliver the thoughtful style of leadership and politics that he has been calling for. (See 11.23am.)
He says:
If you look at the nature of the challenge and the approach to it that I have set out, which is deep thought through through time and thoughfulness, she is the person to lead us.
She will get better through time at the media. She will get better through time at dispatch box though PMQs, just as Margaret Thatcher, when she became leader in ‘75 , was often criticised for everything from her hair to the clothes she wore to the pitch of her voice to heaven knows what else, in the end, she got it together, and Kemi will do absolutely that.
What she is doing behind the scenes is leading a shadow cabinet that is united, and our party has not been united in that way for a very long time.
And she is going to drive through the process with me and others, so that we come to the right conclusions.
Stride was referring to the many criticisms of Badenoch’s performance (which explain why Henry Hill, deputy editor of the ConservativeHome website, said in a recent Guardian article that Tories assume she will face a leadership challenge.)
Stride probably intended these remarks to be helpful. But Badenoch may not view them quite like that.
Stride defends the Conservative party’s opposition to lifting the two-child benefit cap. He says:
I think that in a fair society we should accept that individuals who are not receiving benefits and have to take the hard choices about whether they have a medium-sized family, or whether they have a very large family, they often have to really have a long, hard look at whether they can afford to do that.
And I don’t think it’s right, where people are on benefits, that they should naturally not worry about those considerations that other people, who are taxpayers, are having to [think about].
Q: Do you think there is anything Liz Truss got right?
Stride says Truss was right to say that the status quo was not acceptable.
He says he is in favour of “responsible radicalism”.
Stride insists it would be possible for Tories to cut taxes
Q: Can you get taxes down to pre-pandemic levels?
Stride replies:
Absolutely, we can get taxes down, but we get taxes down in a responsible way that can be paid for, and we do it by addressing a number of deep-seated, deep-rooted issues – the size of the state, whether we’ve got the right skills offer to drive a higher value added economy, that we get energy costs down, and we can control welfare and so on and so forth.
We will only do it if we have a whole plan that all leans in the same direction, but it can be done.
Stride says millionaires should not be getting the winter fuel payments. But the government set the means test so low that most pensioners below the povery line no longer qualified.
Stride is now taking questions from the media.
Q: [From the BBC’s Chris Mason] How do you deal with the fact the public don’t seem to be listening?
Stride says political opinion changes. The Canadian Conservatives seemed a shoo-in to win the election at the start of this year, but their leader lost his seat. And after the 2019 election people assumed Labour would find it very hard to win the next election, he says.
He says things can change “very quickly”. And this government is making mistakes, he says.
Stride dismisses Truss’s criticism of his speech
Haldane asks Stride about what Liz Truss tweeted about his speeech. (See 10.19am.)
Stride says he does not believe that just cutting taxes is the right approach.
You can never get away from the bond markets, he says. You need a credible fiscal policy.
He says his “overriding message” that the Tories will never repeat the mistakes of the past.
Stride is now being questioned by Andy Haldane, the former Bank of England chief ecconomist who now runs the RSA thinktank.
Q: There seems to be a fatalism at growth. People say we are consigned to the slow lane. Do you agree?
Stride says he does not accept that. He says that countries like the US, Canada, France and Germany have 20% higher productive rates than here. That means their workers can work from January to August and produce as much as a British worker in a year, he claims.
(That would not be true on a 20% higher productivity rate, but Stride may be thinking of another figure.)
He says there is no magic bullet to solve this.
But the tax system is one factor, he says.
Stride said he thought economic policy should be guided by two principles.
First, ensuring economic stability as the prerequisite for protecting the nation’s finances and keeping taxes low …
And, secondly, completely rewiring our economy and the state to jump start economic growth.
(Rachel Reeves would agree with both those points._
But Stride also attacked the Labour government, describing it as “clear and present threat to our economy”. He said Reeves has increased borrowing, and has added £80bn to the debt interest bill over this parliament.
Stride went on to attack Reform UK, describing their policies as “pure populism”.
He said their policies involved a revival of the “magic money tree” approach to spending. The Tories thought they had seen that off with Jeremy Corbyn, he said. But it was back under Reform, he said.